[williamcotton]

Here’s a big difference.

I value writing and playing my own music.

Most are happy enough to listen to other people’s music.

Somehow with music this isn’t a religious war.

[rewgs]

I'm sorry to burst your bubble but it absolutely is. The pro-Suno vs anti-Suno discussions are just as heated as those in programming.

[neogodless]

I have a co-worker who has spoken excitedly about creating AI-generated music. I listened to him talk (and some brief music clips) and didn't tell them I have no interest in it, because he seems passionate about it. But it does not interest me.

My point is, though, it occurred to me why he's excited about it. He has no ability whatsoever to write music in notes, or song lyrics. But with his tool, he's able to make music that he finds decent enough to feel excited about helping to shape it.

No criticism to those who can't do a thing on their own, but are excited to be able to do it with a tool. And yes, you can certainly elaborate on and debate craftsmanship, and the benchmarks and measures of quality of an end result when made through expert skill and care, or by amateurs with a powerful (and perhaps imperfect or imprecise) tool.

So personal anecdote, using generative code has not interested me personally, because I love writing code, and I'm very good at it, and I'm very fast. Of course machines can do things faster than me (once I learn the different skill of prompting), but speed hasn't really been a massively limiting factor for me when trying to build things. (There are lots of other things that can get in my way!)

I'm reminded of the oft used quote, "He who can, does; he who cannot, teaches" - George Bernard Shaw. (Just, now the teaching is that of a machine, who then does.)

[gibsonsmog]

Yeah, seriously. I've seen musicians nearly come to blows over tube vs solid state amps. Music has even more anger associated with brands and technique than gaming or tech. It's just not flooding the algos like AI currently is

[williamcotton]

I guess I am in my own bubble because I have never heard of Suno until now and I have yet to come across these heated discussions!

[earthnail]

It’s even more heated in music. The copyright problem is bigger there than in any other domain afaics.

[tarwich]

Something about this prose feels like a short poem of sorts. I like it.