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wing-_-nuts | 1 month ago

These sort of shenanigans for even basic lanekeeping makes a very strong case for more open source solutions like comma

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greenpresident|1 month ago

Pressing the lane assistant button on a Mercedes steering wheel and getting a “you’ll need to activate your subscription first” message really drove up my blood pressure.

wolvoleo|1 month ago

And the EU companies are surprised a lot of people buy Chinese now.

Screw the subscriptions. I don't care how much the shareholders want them.

moolcool|1 month ago

Woah, which model was this in?

hermanzegerman|1 month ago

You know you can just buy it?

rootusrootus|1 month ago

My Comma 4 arrives today, and I think it will be great (using it with my Lightning, not my Model 3), but I think it is just a temporary solution that is effectively a dead man walking. The latest cars are not usable with a Comma and likely will never be, with manufacturers locking down the CANBUS with encryption.

fc417fc802|1 month ago

Literal anticompetitive behavior in the name of safety. The more of them that move to subscription services the better the chance the scheme gets legally challenged I figure.

ews|1 month ago

Comma can be installed on a tesla, I've seen a couple of them already driving around the Bay Area

BeetleB|1 month ago

Comma's days are numbered. Newer cars are encrypting the bus, so that HW like comma can't get the data it needs.

SirMaster|1 month ago

As a company yeah they probably won't survive in the long term. But since the software is open source forks like SunnyPilot should remain updated for existing owners and such. People will likely even make DIY comma hardware devices too if the company stops selling them.

Although even if the devices stop getting updates, that makes them on par with most built in car software and lane assist stuff which never gets updated in the car's life anyway.

mikkupikku|1 month ago

Very strong case for keeping your hands on the wheel, eyes on the road and drive the car yourself.

wing-_-nuts|1 month ago

I do. My current car only has regular old cruise control, but it would be nice to have ACC and lane centering for longer drives.d

nabakin|1 month ago

And right to repair

MBCook|1 month ago

Sorry but the LAST thing I want is people being able to YOLO code onto their cars to drive on public roads.

That was my original main complaint with Tesla and why I distrusted them so much before Elon publicly lost the plot.

Even with Autopilot it was clear to me they were far more willing to force the risks of their systems on all other drivers on the road then the legacy auto makers who were much more cautious about testing things extremely thoroughly first. All those early videos of people climbing in the backs of their cars while they were driving down the highway? To me that was proof they couldn’t be trusted with public safety.

foolfoolz|1 month ago

it’s a standard feature on all models for many brands today

Sparyjerry|1 month ago

Basic lanekeeping is still free but changed the name to Traffic-Aware Cruise Control with Autosteer due to lawsuits. This article is just more anti-tesla propaganda from democrats who hate that Elon supported Trump.