The American discourse around these killings are actually insane. In any other developed country it wouldn't be possible to escalate these situations like this regardless of what you were doing.
> In any other developed country it wouldn't be possible to escalate these situations like this regardless of what you were doing.
Without in any way excusing the clear and obvious excess of the US DHS and ICE here, you should at least read various Coroner's findings in respect of Australian police interactions with indigenous Australians.
Various police forces around the globe, in Australia, Canada, the UK, and elsewhere have their subgroups with encrypted chat accounts detailing at length their contempt for various others .. women, particular minorities and ethnicities, etc.
They often exchange grooming notes on provoking "officer-induced jeopardy" .. how to escalate a situation into what passes for "justified homicide" or least a chance to put the boot in.
> The American discourse around these killings are actually insane.
The only insanity is in the defence of the killing(s).
On the most recent event, a reduced-speed video showing one agent (centre, bent over at beginning) removing the victim's firearm from his waistband, then a second agent (left) waiting for the first to get clear, and then pulling his pistol (video stops before any shooting):
I’m not sure how many people realize this, but ICE is the buildup for trump to hold power by deploying soldiers ahead of time. I expect we will see them deployed at the election sites of democratic cities in November.
The massive public outcry against ICE would likely cause that to backfire. Look at the extent of protesting in Minneapolis. People aren't afraid of ICE, putting them at polling stations would intensify the outrage against them, and fire up the opposition. They're
My two cents. Trump likes the idea that in the Ukraine they can't hold elections when they are at war as per their constitution. Even though the US doesn't have such a thing, it's not going to deter Trump from creating a "situation" where he can declare a marshall law event of some sort to "postpone" elections, indefinitely. If Americans think that there are going to be midterms, or even a next presidential election, better get ready!
They’re failing to control a single mid-sized city, I’m not sure how they would maintain control over half the country. They don’t have the numbers, and are widely hated.
If you don't see what's going on at this point then you are either wilfully ignorant or feigning ignorance. Anybody who cares just a little about "the others" can see the truth. Wake up!
Everybody already knows what to do in a civil unrest scenario if you don't want to risk your life (stay at home, don't let in anybody without a warrant). There are other people with different, more noble priorities.
Exactly what was said to the Venezuelian and Irani protesters.
On the other side, the last time in the US police were killing this indiscriminately, some people in Oakland started open carrying automatic rifles in groups and followed patrol cars to prevent those 'mistakes' to happen again.
The penalty for legal concealed carry is not death.
Victim blaming may be practical, but it's a measure of the depths the government agents have come to, that we are in fear of our lives from them and stepping out of line might be a death sentence.
Vanit|1 month ago
defrost|1 month ago
Without in any way excusing the clear and obvious excess of the US DHS and ICE here, you should at least read various Coroner's findings in respect of Australian police interactions with indigenous Australians.
eg: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-07-07/kumanjayi-walker-inqu...
Various police forces around the globe, in Australia, Canada, the UK, and elsewhere have their subgroups with encrypted chat accounts detailing at length their contempt for various others .. women, particular minorities and ethnicities, etc.
They often exchange grooming notes on provoking "officer-induced jeopardy" .. how to escalate a situation into what passes for "justified homicide" or least a chance to put the boot in.
throw0101c|1 month ago
The only insanity is in the defence of the killing(s).
On the most recent event, a reduced-speed video showing one agent (centre, bent over at beginning) removing the victim's firearm from his waistband, then a second agent (left) waiting for the first to get clear, and then pulling his pistol (video stops before any shooting):
* https://x.com/TheWarMonitor/status/2015272806636736647
* https://xcancel.com/TheWarMonitor/status/2015272806636736647
The actual shooting of the victim; view discretion advised:
* https://x.com/TheWarMonitor/status/2015335743443378660
* https://xcancel.com/TheWarMonitor/status/2015335743443378660
ChrisArchitect|1 month ago
Man shot and killed by federal agents in south Minneapolis this morning
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46745047
OutOfHere|1 month ago
https://apnews.com/live/minneapolis-ice-shooting-updates-1-2...
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polotics|1 month ago
NRA and all that notwithstanding it seems if you're bearing arms you will be shot. Interesting times.
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mcphage|1 month ago
Well, which one photoshops people they don’t like and releases them, claiming they are real? AP or the White House?
bigyabai|1 month ago
I don't think you've been paying much attention to this admin's PR: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/22/white-house-...
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happytoexplain|1 month ago
Everybody already knows what to do in a civil unrest scenario if you don't want to risk your life (stay at home, don't let in anybody without a warrant). There are other people with different, more noble priorities.
orwin|1 month ago
On the other side, the last time in the US police were killing this indiscriminately, some people in Oakland started open carrying automatic rifles in groups and followed patrol cars to prevent those 'mistakes' to happen again.
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tylerritchie|1 month ago
It's a bad take.
DustinEchoes|1 month ago