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plingamp | 1 month ago

My car got broken into in Oakland, California. Multiple pieces of luggage stolen (yes, my fault for leaving it in the car in the first place). Luckily I had an AirTag that showed the exact location of the stolen items. I called the police but they said they couldn't do anything. Apparently, even if I had the location the thief would have to invite them in. Regardless, I was put on a waiting list, they finally called me back 3 days later. I promptly left the state a few months later.

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ahmeneeroe-v2|1 month ago

It's not your fault for leaving your property in your car. Wild to say that.

poulsbohemian|1 month ago

Ahem. There are neighborhoods in the US where you leave nothing in your car because otherwise your car will become a target. It's often "the rule" in these places that you also leave the doors unlocked because that way "they" won't break your window trying to get in. They open the door, see there's nothing of value to steal and move on. In other places in the US it's (still but fading) normal to leave your car doors unlocked because "everybody knows everybody and no one would steal from each other." Code switching is knowing which of the neighborhoods you are in and how to adapt.

ghaff|1 month ago

Outside of some bad areas of some cities, in New England leaving property in cars is perfectly normal.

JKCalhoun|1 month ago

Lived in the Bay Area for over two decades. Yeah, leaving a visible item in your car is just bait for the smash-and-grab crowd.

It sucks but once you know it, it would be like thinking you can just leave your wallet sitting on a counter.

jasonfarnon|1 month ago

not "fault" in the sense of legal or ethical blame, but "fault" in the sense of stupid vs. smart thing to do

elzbardico|1 month ago

Fault doesn’t necessarily imply guilty. People need to understand that. “I should have known better” means while I am not guilty of what happened to me, I could have avoided it by not doing X. So, the real world is messy, and next time I will ac accordingly for my own good.

It is not smart to die or have your things subtracted just because you want to make a point of how things should be, a point that nobody will care about.

matwood|1 month ago

I grew up in a small city in the US and was taught early on to never leave any property in view in your car. The US also has a worse issue than other parts of the world because people often leaves guns in their cars.

edm0nd|1 month ago

It 100% is if you live in or operate in a high crime area known for vehicle break-ins. Like OP of the comment.

renewiltord|1 month ago

I imagine they see it the way I do: the SF Bay Area has thieves like this because it's part of local native culture. You get the good with the bad. Sort of like going to the elephant graveyard and being eaten by hyena pack. Sure, it's not your fault for walking around graveyard and getting eaten by hyena. But this is where hyena is. I have lost (and sometimes recovered) many items to these hyena. Ultimately, they are not people or anything. They're like hyena. You don't say it is fault of hyena. It is animal and local culture is animal lover. Why stress about it? Like many, GP decided that he leave hyena here and go elsewhere where it is people and not animal.

shibapuppie|1 month ago

I'm sure if you were to "take your gun" to where the AirTag is located, the police would care a ton more.

fsckboy|1 month ago

>the thief would have to invite them in

it wasn't your mistake calling them, but be thankful you escaped: those police were apparently vampires.

fortran77|1 month ago

> (yes, my fault for leaving it in the car in the first place).

It's not your fault. It's California's fault for tolerating a culture of criminality.

trollbridge|1 month ago

I generally believe it is not a crime victim's fault for being a victim of a crime, and the police services need to stop saying things that perpetrate this mindset.

gruez|1 month ago

>Apparently, even if I had the location the thief would have to invite them in.

I mean, isn't that good? 4th amendment, warrants from a judge, and all that.

cbolton|1 month ago

Presumably they could easily get a warrant with that information, if they cared to ask.

insane_dreamer|1 month ago

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SllX|1 month ago

I don’t deal with Oakland Police specifically but Oakland itself is a sanctuary city.