[c-fe]

As a retail investor mostly invested into broad ETFs (All World), is there any way I can get short exposure to OpenAI? Being short Oracle/Nvidia/Microsoft?

[Yizahi]

Shorting OIA, or really any big company, is like trying to stop a train which is on fire by standing in front of it. Yes, it is on fire and won't last long, but it will still crush any small player trying to overpower whole corrupt system.

[fauigerzigerk]

You don't need to stand in front of a train to bet on a trainwreck.

[fauigerzigerk]

Prediction markets?

https://polymarket.com/event/openai-ipo-closing-market-cap

[c-fe]

Im not sure I like that market in particular, but probably polymarket is indeed the best one… assuming the market will resolve fairly

[trickster_]

That's an excellent question. My fear is that it's going to be a little bit like putting a towel on a pool-bed on the Titanic...

[c-fe]

Exactly. I would prefer to remain invested as I dont want to time the market. But I would prefer if I could meaningfully reduce exposure to OpenAI and the consequences of their possible downfall.

[helsinkiandrew]

Not really that gives you much exposure:

If OpenAI is worth $5B, 4% of MSFT market Cap is Open AI.

ARK Venture Fund (ARKVX) holding is 7.2% of its total but also has xAI, Anthropic and lots of other AI

https://www.ark-funds.com/funds/arkvx#hold

OpenAI going bust might be a shock to shareprices of publicly traded companies like Oracle, CoreWeave, Softbank and the like

EDIT: obviously if OpenAI is worth $500B, not 5