[holowoodman]

I didn't say "never", just "very very hard".

Just think of the relations the US has with the British. Back in the day, after the independence war, I'm quite sure that there were quite a few people in the US who said something like "never will we have cordial relations with the Kingdom of Britain"...

[arjie]

No, you did not say that, but that was the context of the conversation.

> I think every American needs to understand this quote:

> > "We will never fucking trust you again."

[holowoodman]

I guess that's just the usual hyperbole in these kinds of heated talks. I mean, it is basically the same as all those instances of TACO: Propose something outrageous, outlandish and absolute, later compromise to do something lesser.