[dmit]

People jump to the conclusion because a lot of the time they've had this exact argument already, and they know how it tends to end.

Proclaiming oneself a centrist might seem like a noble, moderate position. But in 2026, with the Overton window basically being shifted outside the frame?

[infecto]

What argument are we having? I see someone struggling to hold their own words steady, and you claiming that I am proclaiming something when I only mentioned it because of this exact problem. I do not really think of myself as left or right within the current American political system. I do not follow either political party, and my opinions often zig zag across existing party lines. If anything, maybe “centrist” is the wrong or overly loaded word. I do not follow any particular political movement in America.

The point still stands brigading is a massive problem in America.

[dmit]

I'm not having an argument. I was just trying to explain that "I'm not left or right" sounds like "I am perfectly fine with how things are right now" to the people who think the current state of things is an absolute disaster.

[nomdep]

He is accusing you of not beign "leftist enough", which he regards the same as beign a traitor to the "good" side

[lyu07282]

> The point still stands brigading is a massive problem in America.

So why is it that self proclaimed centrists consistently talk in right-wing talking points? That's my entire point, you talk in cancel culture/culture war talking points as if those are real issues and even the single most pertinent issues in America. Even though in reality they are purely artificial constructions of right-wing propaganda, spread by Fox News, Heritage Foundation and other right-wing think-tanks and media figures. When I hear those mirrored back to me by someone who claims to be a centrist, I can't contain my frustration.

It's like this political illiteracy that gets on my nerves, it's people fed propaganda they internalized as some political congruent position that reads to me as completely incomprehensible gibberish. It's like a proto-fascist is in power that is rounding people up and putting them in concentration camps and you are undecided IDEOLOGICALLY, I'm sorry but that's just lack of very basic political education and being a severe victim of neoliberal depoliticization. Read a book.