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ArtTimeInvestor | 1 month ago

    I've never seen a company that ...
You have not seen Alphabet, Apple, Microsoft? Where are you looking? They all did tens of billions of share buybacks every year for many years now.

Example: Alphabet has started share buybacks in 2015 and increased those every year. $70B in 2025 alone. And they are firing on all cylinders product-wise.

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noosphr|1 month ago

I'm happy you made my point for me.

Rastonbury|1 month ago

I'm not sure what the point is wrt ASML, they made good bets, they won their monopoly, their shareholders who funded the bets get to enjoy monopoly pricing. If they start cutting R&D and lose their crown, yes it's shame I guess but that's all there is. To expect a company to sell their goods cheaply when they are the only ones in the world who can them is asking for too much. It's great that they and their investors took the punt on EUV all those years ago, we probably would not have the chips we have today and all the economic benefits around it

anonymous908213|1 month ago

Has anyone in the last 10 years praised Google for anything, ever? They've been engaged in enshittification the entire time. Search is getting worse, Youtube is getting worse, Android is getting worse, Chrome is getting worse. They are indeed a hollow shell of the company that originally established themselves, but now that they have such a wide-ranging monopoly they can freely debase the value of their products to extract as much from customers as they can.

ArtTimeInvestor|1 month ago

Google is still the best search engine. YouTube is still the best video site. Android is still the best operating system. Chrome is still the best browser.

And on the side they built the best AI and the best autonomous ride service.

Not bad for a "hollow shell" of a company.

apexalpha|1 month ago

When you say "worse" shareholders will say: "globally dominant in multiple platforms".

Sure Android might be worse from a pure Linux perspective, but what shareholder has ever cared about that.

qwertytyyuu|1 month ago

Gemini maybe? (and before that the alpha fold and alpha go), they do have things they are good at

PunchyHamster|1 month ago

What products ?

They lost battle for office software, they can't even exist in chat space, despise trying to make chat that sticks for 2 decades now, they squandered on video chat space and office space too.

IF Alphabet was actually efficient they should own office space, but 365 ate their office productivity and even the utter turd that is MS teams is beating them out on chat.

Even their search gets worse and only places where they actually have progress is AI.

IshKebab|1 month ago

Search, Android, Chrome, Chromebooks, Maps, Gmail, Youtube, Gemini.

They definitely have embarrassing failures (chat especially), and some are not as successful as you'd expect them to be (Gsuite, GCP). But overall I'd say they are doing pretty damn well.

Compare to Amazon for example. They've only ever had two really successful products: shopping and AWS. Alexa could have been too if they hadn't spent a gazillion dollars trying to monetise it.

Or Facebook. They've only ever had one successful product - the rest they bought after they were already successes.

devsda|1 month ago

I think they sort of failed upwards in chat space with their RCS push.