[Wilya]

In 2015, systemd was a giant, immature and complex galaxy of tools, that came to replace a hacky-but-mostly-stable bunch of shell scripts. It was pushed fast. It came with good ideas and innovations. It also came with security issues, bugs, and lost productivity.

The fact that the main guy behind the project has a very... abrasive personality, and that the project got to widespread adoption through political moves more than through technical superiority, turned that dislike into hate.

But it's 2025 now, systemd has stabilized now, and I don't really see the point of all this anymore.

[t43562]

That's the way open source works. The people that think there's a point go and fork and those that don't stay put.

Linux distros have become extremely complicated IMO. Systemd is not the worst example of this - the packaging systems are hard, things like SeLinux are very annoying. The stability is because companies have spent to make it so. There are enterprise features all over the place etc. This just isn't what all of us necessarily want. I think there's room for distros which can be understood at a technical level - which are composed of units that can be easily replaced that have defined functions.