[joeframbach]

Does the browser expose its accessibility tree instead of the raw dom element tree? The accessibility tree should be enough, I mean, it's all that's needed for vision impaired customers, and technically the ai agent _is_ a vision impaired customer. For a fair usage, try the accessibility tree.

[tonyww]

The accessibility tree is definitely useful, and we do look at it. The issue we ran into is that it’s optimized for assistive consumption, not for action verification or layout reasoning on dynamic SPAs.

In practice we’ve seen cases where AX is incomplete, lags hydration, or doesn’t reflect overlays / grouping accurately. It does not support ordinality queries well. That’s why we anchor on post-rendered DOM + geometry and then verify outcomes explicitly, rather than relying on any single representation.