[Rijanhastwoears]

> it seems to me there are enough american job seekers in CS to justify not needing H1B.

Anecdotal so hold on to your salt but in my social circle here in the US natural-born US citizens vs visa-holders self-select for types of jobs. For example, if my the starting pay is < $80k most of my natural-born American friends don't bother applying. Whereas, my visa-holding friends routinely go well below $50k when searching for jobs or "2 year internships". So, when a company posts a certain type of a job they have a certain demographic in mind already.

Not saying my US friends are uppity as much as visa holders are desperate.

[ge96]

I suppose that is "in the tech field" too, as non-tech people would be happy with an $80K job where a lot are under $50K

I will say my first tech job was $40K and now I have to have a six-fig job just because of my debt.

[overfeed]

> I suppose that is "in the tech field" too, as non-tech people would be happy with an $80K job where a lot are under $50K

Indeed. The median salary in America for full time employment is a little over $63K.

Edit: if the message from H1B folk earning $300k+ to voters who earn $63k on average[1] is "You need our superior intellects, you uneducated rubes", then its unlikely to be well-received, especially at a time when blaming foreigners is in vogue.

1. Or a laid-off American tech worker

[x0x0]

> as visa holders are desperate

That is the point of most of these programs. If we (as a country) do h1b, those people should be on an automatic path to a green card.

[profdevloper]

Why? They are obviously being weaponized to suppress wages for native Americans in an environment where tech leaders were saying "learn to code". I think the H1B needs to be cancelled and companies should incur financial penalties for using foreign labor to undercut American workers.