[powerbook5300CS]

My Tesla drove me to the supermarket today. I pushed a button and it took me there and parked in a good spot. It drove me to another state this summer. It works and works very well. Not sure if you’re up to date here because the full self driving is incredible. Nobody is even close to touching Tesla here, they’re 5 years ahead of any other car maker in this respect.

[gamblor956]

If by that you mean in terms of fatalities, then you would be accurate. Tesla advanced-driving systems have more recorded fatalities than the entire rest of the automotive industry worldwide combined.

It does not matter how you dice up the statistics (i.e., miles driven, risk levels of the drivers, by year, by location, etc). Tesla AP and FSD are the most dangerous driving systems on the road.

[dham]

Tesla AP is a basic ADAS system like Toyota Safety Sense. So using FSD and AP in the same sentence basically reads like Microsoft Windows 3.1 and Microsoft Windows 11.

[NicoJuicy]

Waymo is better

[Zigurd]

Waymo is different. Waymo evolved over a period of 15 years into a mature and deployable robotaxi service. Waymo has a hardware strategy, enormous data infrastructure, real time data from 2 billion Maps and Navigation users, a support infrastructure that makes opex sense, which makes an ambitious expansion program possible. In other words it's got what it takes to be a real product and it is a real product. Possibly uniquely since the three Chinese Robo taxi services operates smaller fleets. Probably due to support requirements and a large number of interventions.