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mfru | 1 month ago

(1) The answer is simple: Stop the genocide in Gaza by any means necessary. The US has the power to do that with its proxy Israel.

(2) Reading that I wonder if you also supported violent dismissals of Vietnam war protests

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wqaatwt|1 month ago

> by any means necessary

Not that carpet bombing a densely populated city wasn’t extremely horrible were there any better was to destroy or at least massively weaken Hamas?

For that matter Hamas could have stopped the Israeli atrocities any time they wanted, they chose not to.

JasonADrury|1 month ago

> were there any better was to destroy or at least massively weaken Hamas?

Perhaps not pursuing policies that create the conditions for Hamas to thrive in the first place?

direwolf20|1 month ago

Hamas is an idea. Hamas is the idea that Israel must be destroyed. If you want people to stop thinking Israel is evil and must be destroyed, it would greatly help if Israel stopped killing their families. Usually, when you see someone kill your family and the people around you, you start thinking they are evil and must be destroyed. This is pretty basic human psychology.

To make people believe that Israel is a good thing instead, they could start by delivering lots of food and fresh water. Even more easily, they could start by letting in the food and fresh water that's lined up outside of the border.

adastra22|1 month ago

Not what I was asking about. What should Israel have done in response to Oct 7th? What would be the downstream effects?

What should a country do when a neighbor invades and massacres entire towns, live-streaming the violent deaths and rapes for the world to see? What is the correct response to this?

You have clearly not thought through the game theory and repercussions of what you are suggesting.

Like many college protesters, you would do well to understand the complexity of the mechanics of the real world, and understand that reality ain’t rainbows and butterflies.

I have no clue how you drew the Vietnam war protest thing from what I wrote.

direwolf20|1 month ago

What should Palestine have done in response to Oct 6th?

watwut|1 month ago

First, genocide is not necessary response. Second, Israel hard right was working on that and moving toward genocide for years.