[machomaster]

Most obese people think "I am a bit on a heavy side, but I am not that fat and definitely not obese".

People are generally in denial about their fat percentage and their muscle mass. Even somewhat healthy people (~20% fat) who are calculating how much they must lose in order to get to a healthy 12-15%, are surprised when the reality shows that they calculations were 5-15kg off.

[steveBK123]

Most people are wrong about their body type, in the wrong direction (overweight think they aren't that overweight, skinny think they need to lose weight).

Having an objective voice from your doctor giving you annual feedback and suggestions is better than ignoring the topic entirely.

[colechristensen]

that's gym bro science, there's no compelling health reason to lower your fat percentage to 12-15% and it carries as much risk as being rather obese when accounting for all causes mortality, particularly for women and people getting older