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jsrozner | 1 month ago

So the waymo was speeding! All the dumbasses on here defending waymo when it was going 17 > 15.

Oh also, that video says "kid ran out from a double parked suv". Can you imagine being dumb enough to drive over the speed limit around a double parked SUV in a school zone?

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Aloisius|1 month ago

Depends on where the Waymo was.

The 15 mph speed limit starts on the block the school is on. The article says the Waymo was within two blocks of the school, so it's possible they were in a 25 mph zone.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/Vhce7puwwYyDYEuo6

cucumber3732842|1 month ago

> Can you imagine being dumb enough to drive over the speed limit around a double parked SUV in a school zone?

Can you imagine being dumb enough to think that exceeding a one size fits all number on a sign by <10% is the main failing here?

As if 2mph would have fundamentally changed this. Pfft.

A double parked car, in an area with chock full street parking (hence the double park) and "something" that's a magnet for pedestrians, and probably a bunch of pedestrians should be a "severe caution" situation for any driver who "gets it". You shouldn't need a sign to tell you that this is a particular zone and that warrants a particular magic number.

The proper reaction to a given set of indicators that indicate hazards depends on the situation. If this were easy to put in a formula Waymo would have and we wouldn't be discussing this accident because it wouldn't have happened.

fwip|1 month ago

The default, with good visibility in ideal conditions, should be to not exceed the speed limit.

In a school zone, when in a situation of low visibility, the car should likely be going significantly below the speed limit.

So, it's not a case of 17mph vs 15mph, but more like 17mph vs 10mph or 5mph.

jsrozner|1 month ago

That was my point. The Waymo should have been going much slower than 15 around the double-parked car. Potential speeding makes it worse.

The fact that it’s hard to turn this into a formula is exactly why robot drivers are bad.