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araes | 1 month ago

So, they're suing Anna' Archive for $13T...

  - The combined market cap of NVidia ($4.35T), Apple ($3.88T), and Google (Goog, $1.9T+Googl, $3.62T) shares combined.
  - An amount larger than Every world stock market on Earth, except the NYSE and NASDAQ (the next closest is Shanghai at $9T)
  - ~5 months worth of all trades (market volume) on the NYSE ($2.685T/month)
  - ~1/10th of ALL world stock markets market capitalization.
  - ~1/2 the United States yearly Gross Domestic Product
  - 130x Spotify's own market capitalization (total stock value outstanding)
  - ~766x Spotify's own yearly revenue for 2024 ($16.96B)
Just sue them for a gazillion quadrillion dollars or something. "Yes, judge. We estimate our damages at 1/10th of the entire world stock market, or approximately half the United States total economic output" Be difficult not to laugh at these people.

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musicale|1 month ago

Didn't (Nvidia, Meta, etc.) use Anna's archive to train their ML models?

Certain companies may have attractively deep pockets while being located in the US for enforcement of statutory damages.

See also: "Extracting books from production language models" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46569799

araes|1 month ago

Saw that one. The 96% regurgitation rate on Harry Potter by Claude was pretty damning. Verbatim. That was the caveat that really got me. Figured they were being kind of lenient initially, then later they showed what "didn't qualify."

  glimpsed a pale shape moving through the trees. (actual text)

  just at the edge of sight—a pale shape, slipping between the trunks (not extraction)
"brief examples of text generated by GPT-4.1 in the Phase 2 continuation loop that are not extraction, and do not contribute to m (and thus also not nv-recall)"

And, yes, Nvidia's in the middle of a class action lawsuit for using Anna's Archive. Mildly funny. They even warned Nvidia it was illegal "You realize this is all pirated material, right?"

Court Filing: https://torrentfreak.com/images/naznvid-amend.pdf

Tom's: https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intell...

Digital Music: https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2026/01/23/nvidia-accused-o...

Meta's apparently also, yet it hasn't resulted in a court case, yet. Also kind of funny. "Torrenting from a corporate laptop doesn’t feel right. LOL Emoji" 82TB of data with a decent amount from Anna's Archive.

Tom's: https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intell...