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marrone12 | 1 month ago

Advertising is not a recent evolution of capitalism, it's a foundational piece of it. Whatever you do as a job would not exist if there was no one marketing it. This hostility seems insane.

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q3k|1 month ago

Not having my job would be a tiny price to pay compared to the benefit of living in a world with no advertisements.

jzb|1 month ago

“No advertisements” seems extreme to me. I want to know when a good band is playing at a local venue, or has an album out. I like hearing about new books, or a restaurant near me.

The absolutist position that “all ads are always bad” is a non-starter for me. Especially as long as we exist in a capitalist system. Small business, indie creators, etc. must advertise in some fashion to survive. It’s only the behemoths that could afford to stop doing it (ironically). I’ve never really understood why, e.g. Pepsi and Coke spend so much on advertising: most people already have a preference and I am skeptical that the millions they spend actually moves the needle either way. (“Is Pepsi okay?” “It absolutely is not.”)

losteric|1 month ago

Advertising always seems like a prisoner’s dilemma. If no one advertised, people would still buy things.

cm2012|1 month ago

Yes but the advantage would be much more towards incumbents

12345ieee|1 month ago

The early theorists of capitalism didn't imagine that advanced psychology (that didn't even exist back then) would be used to convince people to buy $product.

Messages of that sophistication are always dangerous, and modern advertising is the most widespread example of it.

The hostility is more than justified, I can only hope the whole industry is regulated downwards, even if whatever company I work for sells less.

eru|1 month ago

> Messages of that sophistication [...]

By demonising them, you are making ads sounds way more glamorous than they are.

achierius|1 month ago

> Advertising is not a recent evolution of capitalism, it's a foundational piece of it

What does that say about capitalism?

DetroitThrow|1 month ago

>it's a foundational piece of it

No it's not