[jfoster]

They are certainly far behind their original schedule, but do you mean to suggest that they are not making progress?

If the original schedules hadn't been made public knowledge, the progress they have made would seem quite fast-paced.

[amanaplanacanal]

If Waymo didn't exist, maybe.

[roryirvine]

If Waymo didn't exist, we'd instead be lauding the progress of Wayve, Pony, and WeRide.

At this point, Tesla have the potential to be at best maybe #5 globally. No wonder they're so desperate to hide behind a tariff wall in their home market.