[dahcryn]

4.1 is great for our stuff at work. It's quite stable (doesn't change personality every month, and one word difference doesn't change the behaviour). IT doesn't think, so it's still reasonably fast.

Is there anything as good in the 5 series? likely, but doing the full QA testing again for no added business value, just because the model disappears, is just a hard sell. But the ones we tested were just slower, or tried to have more personality, which is useless for automation projects.

[QuadrupleA]

Yeah - agreed, the initial latency is annoying too, even with thinking allegedly turned off. Feels like AI companies are stapling more and more weird routing, summarization, safety layers, etc. that degrade the overall feel of things.