[mickeyp]

> No surprise, really. You can use AI to explore new horizons or propose an initial sketch, but for anything larger than small changes - you must do a rewrite. Not just a review. An actual rewrite. AI can do well adding a function, but you can't vibe code an app and get smarter.

Sometimes I wonder if people who make statements like this have ever actually casually browsed Twitter or reddit or even attempted a "large" application themselves with SOTA models.

[JustSkyfall]

You can definitely vibecode an app, but that doesn't mean that you can necessarily "get smarter"!

An example: I vibecoded myself a Toggl Track clone yesterday - it works amazingly but if I had to rewrite e.g. the PDF generation code by myself I wouldn't have a clue!

[suralind]

That's what I meant, it's either, or. Vibe coding definitely has a place for simple utilities or "in-house" tools that solve one problem. You can't vide code and learn (if you do, then it's not vibe coding as I define it).

[suralind]

Did I say that you can't vibe code an app? I browse reddit and have seen the same apps as you did, I also vibe code myself every now and then and know what happens when you let it loose.