[FeloniousHam]

My current FSD usage is 90% over ~2000 miles (since v14.x). Besides driving everywhere, everyday with FSD, I have driven 4 hours garage to hotel valet without intervention. It is absolutely "Full Self-Driving" and "Autonomous".

FSD isn't perfect, but it is everyday amazing and useful.

[JumpCrisscross]

> My current FSD usage is 90% over ~2000 miles

I'd guess my Subaru's lane-keeping utilisation is in the same ballpark. (By miles, not minutes. And yes, I'm safer when it and I are watching the road than when I'm watching the road alone.)

[olyjohn]

My favorite feature of Subaru's system is when you change lanes, and it stays locked onto the car in the slower lane and slams on the brakes. People behind you love that.

[FeloniousHam]

I don't want minimize the efforts of other manufacturers (I'm sure they'll all have Tesla's features in the next generation), but: my wife has a Subaru Outback, and the two systems are as close in functionality as humans are to chimpanzees. The differences are many, stark and subtle (that Subaru screen), I'd just say take a test drive with FSD.

[wat10000]

If it was full self driving, wouldn't your usage be 100%?

[FeloniousHam]

> It's not perfect,

Probably about 90% perfect! Obviously we don't agree on the definition.

[pests]

Sometimes a car is fun to drive.

[jasoncartwright]

Yet still on relying you to cover it with your insurance. Again, clearly not autonomous.

[AlotOfReading]

Liability is a separate matter from autonomy. I assume you'd consider yourself autonomous, yet it's your employer's insurance that will be liable if you have an accident while driving a company vehicle.

If the company required a representative to sit in the car with you and participate in the driving (e.g. by monitoring and taking over before an accident), then there's a case to be made that you're not fully autonomous.