[gizmo686]

Generally speaking, liability for a thing falls on the owner/operator. That person can sue the manufacturer to recover the damages if they want. At some point, I expect it to become somewhat routine for insurures to pay out, then sue the manufacturer to recover.

[amelius]

Or at some point subscribing to a service may be easier than owning the damn thing.

[DaSHacka]

All according to plan

[PunchyHamster]

but tesla is the operator

[fragmede]

Aside from the human in the vehicle holding the steering wheel with a foot on the pedal, that is.

[einpoklum]

Ah, but could one not argue that the owner of the self-driving car is _not_ the operator, and it is the car, or perhaps Tesla, which operates it?

[kube-system]

All Tesla vehicles require the person behind the steering wheel to supervise the operations of the vehicle and avoid accidents at all times.

Also, even if a system is fully automated, that doesn’t necessarily legally isolate the person who owns it or set it into motion from liability. Vehicle law would generally need to be updated to change this.

[sroussey]

Mercedes agrees. They take on liability when their system is operated appropriately.