[tevon]

I have a late model Audi, and a Tesla Model 3. Audi has all the bells and whistles.

Doesn't come close to the safety I feel in the Tesla. Not even close. I know anecdotal

[servo_sausage]

Design of these safety features for euro cars generally aims to be invisible unless active. You don't "feel" the car in control.

[PunchyHamster]

then the PR worked