I feel like collectively we should just stop talking about this and speculating and just see what happens in a year.
Is programming obsolete, or is it needed more then ever becasue we need to fix all the crap generated. Let's just all follow up at the end of the year.
Itll be quiet though if we're still hand writing code though I think
Hasn't AI been annoying the piss out of us for well over a year now? I've definitely been hearing "10x productivity" for that long.
So - where is it all? Where's all the 10 years of software dev that happened over the last year? Where's the companies blowing their competitors out of the water by compressing a decade of production into a year?
The proof is in the pudding. Or lack thereof. If the claims were anything like they say, we'd see something by now.
I didn't get as far as experiencing their billing system; I decided to finally look into Claude recently and discovered that their pricing page's content area was completely blank. It loads on my phone if I'm off WiFi, so I assume my PiHole is blocking something there. That being said, if anyone at Anthropic is reading this, I'm primarily an Android dev but if you'd like to hire me to write a simple static HTML page just like I taught myself back when I was in elementary school, I think it could significantly improve your conversion rates or whatever, and I've been unable to even get an interview anywhere for the past 7 months so I really think we'd be helping each other out.
(Suffice to say I passed on Claude/Claude Code for the time being.)
Every time I ask Opus 4.5 to generate code it is a mess, by mess I mean a human would not have done it that way, it is sub-optimal for maintainability and improvements. The more complex the worse. But generally at least the code works. If I need to modify it, what a nightmare, better tell it to modify so AI slop leads to more AI slop.
It is the same as writing a story. It ain't gonna win The Hugo Award. We know it is AI, full of cliches and corporate speak. I think the difference is people are used to crap code, where as they won't read a crap book.
Most code is crap because 1) engineers don't care about the software 2) high turn over 3) getting rushed
So maybe AI just generates code at the level most people are used to, I have no idea because compared to my code Claude code is bad, but bad is not useless. I put the bad code in its little corner and it if it does its job it is fine.
tayo42|1 month ago
Is programming obsolete, or is it needed more then ever becasue we need to fix all the crap generated. Let's just all follow up at the end of the year.
Itll be quiet though if we're still hand writing code though I think
atomicnumber3|1 month ago
So - where is it all? Where's all the 10 years of software dev that happened over the last year? Where's the companies blowing their competitors out of the water by compressing a decade of production into a year?
The proof is in the pudding. Or lack thereof. If the claims were anything like they say, we'd see something by now.
readme|1 month ago
You can write lots of code with an LLM.
"I did ~20 PRs yesterday all coded by AI"
I guess anthropic makes you use a pull request for minor code changes.
mifreewil|1 month ago
hehrhrbrh|1 month ago
Anthropic over billed me by $300 last month.
EddieRingle|1 month ago
(Suffice to say I passed on Claude/Claude Code for the time being.)
illist-ell1s|1 month ago
It is the same as writing a story. It ain't gonna win The Hugo Award. We know it is AI, full of cliches and corporate speak. I think the difference is people are used to crap code, where as they won't read a crap book.
Most code is crap because 1) engineers don't care about the software 2) high turn over 3) getting rushed
So maybe AI just generates code at the level most people are used to, I have no idea because compared to my code Claude code is bad, but bad is not useless. I put the bad code in its little corner and it if it does its job it is fine.
KellyCriterion|29 days ago
also insert into prompts (or in the base prompt) someting like (e.g. example from my Claude setup) >>
- Configuration as data, logic as loops
- Dynamic rendering (adapts to data size/content)
- Single source of truth (no scattered magic numbers)
- Defensive coding (null checks, division by zero)
- O(1) lookups over O(n) searches where possible
whattheheckheck|29 days ago
Grimblewald|29 days ago
therefore what I hear from an announcment like this is "we have stopped innovating".
this is a bad sign, not a good sign.
warrofua|29 days ago
Is Claude Cowork not innovation? https://www.reddit.com/r/accelerate/comments/1qbg9bu/anthrop... https://jpcaparas.medium.com/the-claude-code-creator-says-ai...
is this not innovation? >> https://openai.com/prism/
A better argument might be that greenfield applications are currently way easier for AI to build out, I do concede that point.
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infomaniac|1 month ago
They use all those spare brain tokens testing the product behaves correctly, right?
Right?!
eclipticplane|1 month ago
almosthere|1 month ago
Apparently cursor keeps track and Opus4.5 is the model our top 3 devs use.
warrofua|29 days ago
It is like a 180 degree different mindset than what typical SWE requires.
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