[dimava]

Open source models costs are determined only by electricity usage, as anyone can rent a GPU qnd host them Closed source models cost x10 more just because they can A simple example is Claude Opus, which costs ~1/10 if not less in Claude Code that doesn't have that price multiplier

[jgalt212]

But Kimi seems so big that renting the necessary number of GPUs is a non trivial exercise.

[pstuart]

Exactly! Electricity, hosting, and amortized cost of the GPUs would be the baseline costs.