[beshrkayali]

Writing Swift is really fun! Last year I built a game and a macOS app (now working on another app) to get some proper hands on experience and I was very impressed. Wrote about it here[1].

I'd love for the experience outside of Xcode to get better (even on a mac, developing for macOS/iOS) but I have to say that I didn't find Xcode to be _that_ aweful. I've certainly used worse IDEs, which is partly why I dislike IDEs altogether.

1: https://log.beshr.com/notes-on-swift-from-building-an-ios-ga...

[bloomca]

I personally never seen anything as bad as XCode, but granted, I haven't used really old IDEs (always preferred just editors). Last year I built a few small apps using both XCode/Swift and Visual Studio/C# and using MS stack felt like you are living in the future, despite WinUI having a very dated UI syntax.