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nprateem | 28 days ago

Proper hatha yoga (not the modern hijacked nonsense) is literally a predictive method to experience deeper aspects of oneself, one part of which is a greater sensitivity to energy movements and corresponding fields.

There is already western research on kundalini, the most potent example of bioelectrical energy, and changes in energy potential experienced by meditators. Not to mention countless empirical self-reports (upon which a good scientist would keep an open mind).

But don't let facts get in the way of your prejudices.

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an0malous|28 days ago

Where can one learn proper hatha yoga?

nprateem|28 days ago

8limbs.com. Gregor Maehle has written some excellent books and has some good on-demand courses.

Also the free lessons on aypsite.org

fooker|28 days ago

Words have meaning, don't write random things about a topic you don't understand because of cultural pride. What you have written is nonsense and demeans hatha yoga, among other things.

> predictive method

No

> corresponding fields

What field? Corresponding to what?

> changes in energy potential experienced by meditators

Link to mentioned research?

krackers|28 days ago

I think it's worth taking the results seriously but not the proposed mechanism literally. Equating an internal feeling which is loosely referred to as a form of "energy" with physical electricity/bioelectricity would be a mistake. Of course all sensations are indirectly the result of nerve impulses and bioelectricity, but you wouldn't say that someone experiencing tingles of say ASMR has literally received "energy".

It may turn out that you can consciously influence bioelectricity on certain levels (I mean you can certainly control motor functions, maybe you can modulate the current of injury [1] by thinking about a body part?). But you need to be clear about the level of abstraction: when you feel a pit in your stomach are you going to literally attribute this to "clogged energy in your lower dantian", at the chemical level of increased norepinephrine and reduced blood flow to your stomach, or simply as a result of your emotions and anxieties at the moment?

A less fanciful way to say "experience deeper aspects of oneself, one part of which is a greater sensitivity to energy movements and corresponding fields" might simply be "greater sensitivity to emotion and bodily awareness". People do the same thing with therapy, discovering emotional/mental baggage they'd been carrying for a long time, and parts of the body they had been unconsciously tensing.

When everything in our body is meditated by impulses and electricity, saying that you're "becoming more attuned to energy" can be technically true but a functionally useless abstraction. You can equally say "more attuned to chemical fluctuations in your brain/body" or "more attuned to homeostasis disruptions". Maybe in the past they didn't have the vocabulary to distinguish these levels of abstraction, but today we do. (And Michael Levin's work is showing that we've actually been underpaying attention to the bioelectric). This is the same way that the "theory of humors" sort of makes sense on a metaphorical level but it falls apart in a literal sense.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_of_injury

Angostura|28 days ago

> is literally a predictive method to experience deeper aspects of oneself, one part of which is a greater sensitivity to energy movements and corresponding fields.

What does it actually predict? What measureable predictions can be tested?