The problem is that they are both correct _and_ they were young back then. What happens then, is their arguments are dismissed because of the latter.
Another issue is it's difficult to explain something to somebody that has no frame of reference of experience of it. He talks of "delayed gratification" a few times. Try explaining how not getting everything you want is good for you to anyone under 40.
College grads have it worse in every way than I did graduating in 1996 from a no name state school in South GA in CS.
I had a job waiting for me in Atlanta after graduating based on an internship that was easy to get. I was able to get a house built at 28 for $170K. Even fast forwarding to 2016 I had a 5/3 3500 square foot home built in the northern burbs of Atlanta built for $335K in the good school system. 8 years later we sold it for $700k and downsized to a condo in Florida for half the price. It would be a stretch for me to buy a $700K home now.
For non college grads in my hometown, there were four or five factories that employed plenty of people with good jobs, all but one is gone.
I don't think it is, so many kids watch stranger things and ask if kids really did have that kind of freedom back then. I get why many things objectively better today, but suicide rates are up. I don't think people's mental health and happiness follow like objective statistics very well. And why would we assume it's true? This concept of "I wish I was. tween/ young teenager in the X0's" has probably only been true for like 100 years.
I'm conflicted on that myself. On paper their life is certainly so much easier and more comfortable.
On the other hand, I feel like there's some intangibles missing. Not having instant access to everything made for patience and appreciation. Not having laptops and cellphones meant having to converse and interact with those around you. It's hard to describe why any of that is better than today, but it just feels like it was to my old brain.
not every.
I have not lived in 90s at all, I am from the current millennium, but.. I am nostalgic about 90s. This is strange, but I feel nostalgia about times I never live
ghusto|27 days ago
Another issue is it's difficult to explain something to somebody that has no frame of reference of experience of it. He talks of "delayed gratification" a few times. Try explaining how not getting everything you want is good for you to anyone under 40.
unknown|28 days ago
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anon291|28 days ago
Everything else is post hoc rationalization
I'm jealous of my kids since they are so much better off in every way
raw_anon_1111|27 days ago
I had a job waiting for me in Atlanta after graduating based on an internship that was easy to get. I was able to get a house built at 28 for $170K. Even fast forwarding to 2016 I had a 5/3 3500 square foot home built in the northern burbs of Atlanta built for $335K in the good school system. 8 years later we sold it for $700k and downsized to a condo in Florida for half the price. It would be a stretch for me to buy a $700K home now.
For non college grads in my hometown, there were four or five factories that employed plenty of people with good jobs, all but one is gone.
techblueberry|28 days ago
silisili|28 days ago
On the other hand, I feel like there's some intangibles missing. Not having instant access to everything made for patience and appreciation. Not having laptops and cellphones meant having to converse and interact with those around you. It's hard to describe why any of that is better than today, but it just feels like it was to my old brain.
feelamee|28 days ago
direwolf20|27 days ago
verdverm|28 days ago
https://today.yougov.com/society/articles/53769-what-are-the...
oncallthrow|28 days ago
Really? It’s interesting how much I see this take online. I never see people saying this IRL.