[popcorncowboy]

> running it scares the crap out of me

A hundred times this. It's fine until it isn't. And jacking these Claws into shared conversation spaces is quite literally pushing the afterburners to max on simonw's lethal trifecta. A lot of people are going to get burned hard by this. Every blackhat is eyes-on this right now - we're literally giving a drunk robot the keys to everything.

[charcircuit]

It turns out the lethal trifecta is not so lethal. Should a business avoid hiring employees since technically employees can steal from the cash register. The lethal trifecta is about binary security. Either the data can be taken or it can't. This may be overly cautious. It may be possible that hiring an employee has a positive expected value when when you account for the possibility of one stealing from the cash register.

[naruhodo]

Employees are humans and therefore subject to the law. There are remedies. And you can point a camera at the cash register.

Who are you going to arrest and/or sue when you run a chat bot "at your own risk" and it shoots you in the foot?

[vidarh]

You're taking it too literally.

The point is to recognise that certain patterns has a cost in the form of risks, and that cost can be massively outsize of the benefits.

Just as the risk of giving a poorly vetted employee unfettered access to the company vault.

In the case of employees, businesses invest a tremendous amount of money in mitigating the insider risks. Nobody is saying you should take no risks with AI, but that you should be aware of how serious the risks are, and how to mitigate them or manage them in other ways.

Exactly as we do with employees.

[anabis]

Maybe. People have run wildly insecure phpBB and Wordpress plugins, so maybe its the same cycle again.

[egeozcan]

Those usually didn't have keys to all your data. Worst case, you lost your server, and perhaps you hosted your emails there too? Very bad, but nothing compared to the access these clawdbot instances get.

[DANmode]

> are running

[TacticalCoder]

I understand that things can go wrong and there can be security issues, but I see at least two other issues:

1. what if, ChadGPT style, ads are added to the answers (like OpenAI said it'd do, hence the new "ChadGPT" name)?

2. what if the current prices really are unsustainable and the thing goes 10x?

Are we living some golden age where we can both query LLMs on the cheap and not get ad-infected answers?

I read several comments in different threads made by people saying: "I use AI because search results are too polluted and the Web is unusable"

And I now do the same:

"Gemini, compare me the HP Z640 and HP Z840 workstations, list the features in a table" / "Find me which Xeon CPU they support, list me the date and price of these CPU when they were new and typical price used now".

How long before I get twelve ads along with paid vendors recommendations?

[spiderice]

> what if the current prices really are unsustainable and the thing goes 10x?

Where does this idea come from? We know how much it costs to run LLMs. It's not like we're waiting to find out. AI companies aren't losing money on API tokens. What could possibly happen to make prices go 10x when they're already running at a profit? Claude Max might be a different story, but AI is going to get cheaper to run. Not randomly 10x for the same models.

[crystaln]

Seems much more likely the cost will go down 99%. With open source models and architectural innovations, something like Claude will run on a local machine for free.

[FuckButtons]

I asked Gemini deep research to project when that will likely happen based on historical precedent. It guessed October 2027.

[raincole]

> what if the current prices really are unsustainable and the thing goes 10x?

What if a thermonuclear war breaks out? What's your backup plan for this scenario?

I genuinely can't tell which is more likely to happen in the next decade. If I have to guess I'll say war.

[p0nce]

If you peruse molthub and moltbook you'll see the agents have already built six or seven such social networks. It is terrifying.

[deadbabe]

Even an OnlyMolts!!