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slowmovintarget | 28 days ago

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vineyardmike|28 days ago

> The point of Global Entry is that Immigration and Customs Enforcement did a background check on you and decided you were cool

Technically Global Entry is run by a different organization than ICE, but under the same parent organization. GE is run by "Customs and Border Protection", which is a sibling organization to ICE. Obviously it's all the US government, so it doesn't matter a ton...

> well, your background just changed, didn't it?

NO! This is an absolutely unreasonable take.

The bigger issue is "When you demonstrate against them" is a protected action by our laws. So taking a legally protected action and expecting to keep your government entitlements is reasonable. This is entirely a non-essential scheme to help punish people for speaking out against ICE; they're just pulling all the levers they have.

It is a reasonable assumption that the government would not declare you a higher-risk traveler because you attended a protest. Let's not pretend that this is reasonable behavior.

slowmovintarget|27 days ago

It is not an unreasonable take.

It also depends. Do you mean protesting by holding up a sign on the sidewalk and chanting. That's absolutely protected. Do you mean "protesting" where you obstruct ICE officers, throw things at their vehicles, create an "autonomous zone" and vandalize businesses? Because none of those things are actions that a reasonable citizen who is a low risk for reentry takes.

Global Entry is a fast lane because they've evaluated the risk an individual poses. Someone who shows they're angry with the authorities also shows that the risk profile has changed. The fast lane at Immigration and Customs is not a right.

psyklic|28 days ago

> Why would someone with GE expect to keep it?

Peaceful protest is protected from retaliation by the First Amendment ...

direwolf20|28 days ago

Which is now worth the paper it'd printed on.

HK-NC|27 days ago

Isnt this the part where someone smugly says "freedom of assembly not freedom of consequences"

beej71|28 days ago

> When you demonstrate against them, or do stuff like get in their way or block their agents...

Or do anything they don't like, like look at them funny.

jjav|27 days ago

> well, your background just changed, didn't it?

The First Amendment is still in the constitution and has not been formally repealed (yet).

So, no.

tayo42|28 days ago

Global entry is just a fast pass for getting through the border.

I can't tell any difference between arriving with global entry or using the regular lane. Who ever is working the border asks the same dumb questions that they ask in the regular line.

slowmovintarget|28 days ago

That's not true. I have Global Entry, and it is dramatically faster. I've not even had to break stride walking past the entry agent.

cthalupa|27 days ago

As someone who has traveled extensively with and without GE, your experience is extremely atypical. Not just for myself, not just for people I am acquainted with, but for all of the people I see in the customs lines and watching the speed of the lines. When I was dating a woman who was not a citizen, if we were returning internationally she would have me go through the GE line to go get the car, etc., and I would regularly have gotten through, walked to the car, loaded my luggage, and driven back around to arrivals and still had time to kill while waiting for her to arrive.

This is perhaps the first time in my life I've heard of someone saying that they haven't seen a difference after acquiring GE.

xenospn|27 days ago

Can you tell the difference between stopping at a red light and driving through a green light?