[rapsey]

Everything is made out of or requires fossil fuels. From concrete, your clothes, to your food. Phasing out fossil fuels is complete insanity.

edit: I cant reply so I will edit.

The policies are clearly insanity because EU industrial self immolation does nothing for the rest of the world. Does China, Indonesia, Africa, South America, India give a crap about saving the environment? They sure as hell do not. Most of them throw their trash directly into the ocean. All we do in europe is self harm while the broad problem goes entirely unsolved. How the hell are you going to develop and sell new technology, while destroying our economies at the same time. Complete pipe dream insanity.

[saubeidl]

> Does China, Indonesia, Africa, South America, India give a crap about saving the environment?

That's precisely what the border carbon tax is about. They have to now, or their products will be noncompetitive in the worlds largest market.

[PurpleRamen]

> Everything is made out of or requires fossil fuels. From concrete, your clothes, to your food. Phasing out fossil fuels is complete insanity.

That's not true, but ok...

> Does China, Indonesia, Africa, South America, India give a crap about saving the environment?

Actually, they do. China is the biggest spender on investing in renewable energy-sources and moving away from fossil fuels. Africa and South America are continents, not Countries. And not sure why India or Indonesia are related here?

Other than that, I'm not sure if you are a troll, victim of poor sources or paid actor, but your quality of data really sucks.

[rapsey]

Because the source of plastics in the ocean is traced back to those places. What exactly am I wrong on? China is mostly powered by coal and they are still building new coal plants.

[disgruntledphd2]

Insanity or opportunity? Like, the climate is already messed up, if we want to maintain our species standard of living then we need to move towards a society that emits much much less carbon.

If we don't then we'll either go extinct or regress to a level where we use less. Sure, it's gonna really really suck for the next while but there isn't really any other options.

As a benefit, if we do this then we can sell the technology to the rest of the world.

[direwolf20]

Why doesn't this same argument apply to slave labor?