[funkyfiddler369]

Germans won't tell you how much they earn, ever. It keeps salaries down in all industries.

These fucking Tarifvertraege have kept salaries from growing, too. The people would have pushed a long time ago but the truth is masked well enough.

Those who don't believe the shit, earn more. It is sad and the change and progress happens elsewhere. Enjoy one or two decades of German companies looking like they still matter. Nobody will account for the reasons later on. It's a shame.

And an average of 65k to the average person is gooood.

[NoiseBert69]

These numbers are far off reality.

80k€+ isn't a high salary for job in a Tarifunternehmen if you stay with it for 5+ years.

Many of my colleagues cracked 100k€ this year without being AT and having crazy high position ratings.

[pbmonster]

> Many of my colleagues cracked 100k€ this year without being AT and having crazy high position ratings.

And for each of those guys there's 2 people working for 48k and happy about it. They've been at the same shop for 15 years, in a team of the only 3 people doing software in the entire company. Probably somewhere a bit rural, and/or north of Frankfurt.

IGM is not the default.

[KellyCriterion]

Let me guess: They are working in one of the IGM-connected companies?