[fnord77]

Java swing is way underrated despite being very complex. It baffles me why this just sort of withered on the vine.

(I was a swing developer for several years)

[Yeroc]

The web sucked all the oxygen out of the room.

[pregnenolone]

It really was Oracle’s fault – they neglected deployment for too long. Deploying Java applications was simply too painful, and neither JLink nor JPackage existed.