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KempyKolibri | 26 days ago

UPF meat substitutes do tend to be healthier than their meat-based equivalent (see the SWAP-MEAT trial, for example).

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array_key_first|26 days ago

I think people really underestimate how bad meat is for you.

It's extremely high in saturated fat and lots of meat is carcinogenic. We classify bacon in the same category of carcinogen as alcohol and tobacco. Meaning, we know, for sure, it causes cancer.

KempyKolibri|25 days ago

Yeah, IMO there’s a continuum between lean meats that I’d classify as relatively middle-of-the-road healthwise (like chicken), and processed red meat (pretty adverse health outcomes even from small amounts), and the fact that there’s a “butter and bacon are health foods” movement seems insane to me.

Unfortunately trends towards plant-based food seem to have taken a step backwards in recent years and I suspect the current moral panic around UPFs hasn’t helped. But the evidence on UPFs as harmful is pretty tenuous at the moment, while the evidence on meat and adverse health effects is considerably more comprehensive.