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fallous | 27 days ago

You just described the burden of outsourcing programming.

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onion2k|27 days ago

Outsourcing development and vibe coding are incredibly similar processes.

If you just chuck ideas at the external coding team/tool you often get rubbish back.

If you're good at managing the requirements and defining things well you can achieve very good things with much less cost.

darkwater|27 days ago

With the basic and enormous difference that the feedback loop is 100 or even 1000x faster. Which changes the type of game completely, although other issues will probably arise as we try this new path.

Terr_|27 days ago

That embeds an assumption that the outsourced human workers are incapable of thought, and experience/create zero feedback loops of their own.

Frustrated rants about deliverables aside, I don't think that's the case.

tomrod|27 days ago

100%! There is significant analogy between the two!

salawat|27 days ago

There is a reason management types are drawn to it like flies to shit.

bitwize|27 days ago

YES!

AI assistance in programming is a service, not a tool. You are commissioning Anthropic, OpenAI, etc. to write the program for you.

fallous|26 days ago

Yes, but as with outsourcing those who are making such decisions often lack the awareness, or even skills, to properly specify the requirements and be able to evaluate the results.

agumonkey|27 days ago

We need a new word for on-premise offshoring.

On-shoring ;

aleph_minus_one|27 days ago

> On-shoring

I thought "on-shoring" is already commonly used for the process that undos off-shoring.

pferde|27 days ago

Corporate has been using the term "best-shoring" for a couple of years now. To my best guess, it means "off-shoring or on-shoring, whichever of the two is cheaper".

fallous|26 days ago

If the on-premise offshoring centers around the use of LLMs then I suggest the term "off-braining." :)

tmtvl|27 days ago

Rubber-duckying... although a rubber ducky can't write code... infinite-monkeying?

intended|27 days ago

Ai-shoring.

Tech-shoring.

heliumtera|27 days ago

We already have a perfect one

Slop;