[KempyKolibri]

Yeah, IMO there’s a continuum between lean meats that I’d classify as relatively middle-of-the-road healthwise (like chicken), and processed red meat (pretty adverse health outcomes even from small amounts), and the fact that there’s a “butter and bacon are health foods” movement seems insane to me.

Unfortunately trends towards plant-based food seem to have taken a step backwards in recent years and I suspect the current moral panic around UPFs hasn’t helped. But the evidence on UPFs as harmful is pretty tenuous at the moment, while the evidence on meat and adverse health effects is considerably more comprehensive.