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pixelpoet | 25 days ago

Interesting article, but immediately ran into one of my pet peeves:

> The work is published in the Journal of Studies on Alcohol and Drugs.

"Alcohol and drugs" is like saying "beef and meat".

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hippo22|25 days ago

When you hear someone say “I do drugs” do you imagine them sitting at a bar to have a drink?

Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit, wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad.

superkuh|25 days ago

We know. But it's a problem because alcohol is one of the most dangerous and damaging drugs. It's basically just society grandfathering it in and all of us living in a state of cognitive dissonance.

re: the article itself, they concentrate only on brain regions which have high density of CB1 expression and that's reasonable. But CB1 is not the only CNS cannabinoid receptor (CB2 mostly expressed peripherally). There's also GPR55 which is activated by cannabinoids like THC. A little issue which could be addressed in future work.

ssl-3|25 days ago

When I hear someone say "I do drugs," first I imagine that they're a fucking narcotics agent, and then I end the conversation.

PlatoIsADisease|25 days ago

Wittgenstein has an example, imagine you are on a construction site and someone says 'Slab!'

Do they mean 'That is a slab.' or 'Hand me that slab.'?

Context matters. There is no correct answer. There are no metaphysical truth particles that shake 'True!'. Expressivism, how you feel about the statement, is going to decide what you think.

Anyway, I used to intentionally say things like "I love drugs, although its specifically Caffeine."

kannanvijayan|25 days ago

Knowledge is being aware of the analogy of tomatoes not being treated like fruits even though they technically are.

Wisdom is understanding that if there was legislation on the matter, and people who ate, produced, or sold non-tomato fruits were hunted and deprived of their freedoms by the state on the basis that fruits are bad for society, then you would likely see similar frustrations expressed about an article title that includes the phrase "tomatoes and fruits" to distinguish them.

micromacrofoot|25 days ago

you can't ignore societal context though, most people do not consider alcohol a drug at this point... same story with caffeine

we have to operate in people space

swed420|25 days ago

> most people do not consider alcohol a drug at this point

But that's presumably why the parent commenter spoke up in the first place.

Industry-fueled self-delusion can be intercepted if we make the effort to do so.

nutjob2|25 days ago

I've had someone tell me "pot isn't a drug" and what they meant is that pot is like alcohol.

lo_zamoyski|25 days ago

There is a reason for this distinction. Alcohol in moderation is relaxing and can be enjoyable to the senses. Most drugs, and at the doses that make them appealing for recreational use, impair the exercise and function of reason and the sense faculties that inform it. (Drunkenness is bad for the same reason.) Given how central and essential to humanity reason is, that's an incredibly important distinction.

dapangzi|25 days ago

Logic does not follow to me.

Plenty of drugs, used in moderation, are also relaxing and can be enjoyable to the senses.

Alcohol, caffeine, nicotine, and marijuana products ARE drugs, not sure why people insist on making the distinction.

dana321|25 days ago

Animals and dogs

sejje|25 days ago

Or a counterpoint, "humans and animals."

We see a distinction for that one, just like we do for alcohol.