[detourdog]

I gave up on the NYT as a news source in their handling of the Iraq War. Prior to that it was a daily purchase.

[palmotea]

> I gave up on the NYT as a news source in their handling of the Iraq War. Prior to that it was a daily purchase.

That was more than 20 years ago. It's hardly relevant to the journalism landscape in 2026.

It's not inconceivable that in the near future, if you give up on the NYT, you give up on having a news source, period.

[detourdog]

The internet has provided tremendous access to news outside of the NYT. I have not seen the NYT editorial board doing anything to improve their status. Didn’t Paul Krugman leave the times for integrity reasons?

[einpoklum]

> That was more than 20 years ago. It's hardly relevant to the journalism landscape in 2026.

It is actually very relevant. If you read Chomsky & Herman's 'Manufacturing Consent', you'll get examples from the 1970s and 1980s, another 20 years earlier, and you will find that "plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose".

[Applejinx]

That is a REALLY wild take considering what the NYT functionally is.

It's also exactly the sort of take you'd see propagated by what the NYT functionally is, so I guess have fun with that? For me, seeing wild talk like that only underscores my complete, utter, earned distrust of the thing. All righty then, the New York Times is the only information, full stop. How nice for it.

[tptacek]

This is the modern media criticism equivalent of "I don't even own a television."

[detourdog]

How so? Growing up most of the time my family didn’t have a television. What are you saying I do read the NYT? I have no idea what point you are trying to make. My comment was in response to the comment about how the NYT had to resort to games for sustainability.

[red-iron-pine]

poor analogy. there are more newspapers or other sources of info.

"I thought CBS news was crap so I stopped watching it for NBC News"

[g8oz]

Not a good analogy

[constantius]

I don't understand the downvotes to your comment (and the few replies are grotesque...), but I definitely support the sentiment. If dropping the NYT over Iraq is not justified, then the concept of red lines loses its meaning.

You didn't lose much by the way, their handling of Gaza was equally despicable.

[detourdog]

Exactly why should I read a paper that I find is flawed. The editorial board lost my trust.

[repeekad]

they are not an unbiased news source, they profit from being biased toward what elites with money for a subscription want to hear