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[lazyasciiart]

Presumably you mean that it is commonly presented that way by authoritarians who have no idea what they are talking about.

[RealityVoid]

It's wild what the perception is in the right echo chamber right now. I was talking with my brother, who I love, but who, through his practicing Christian faith is essentially pulled into this right-wing cultural environment and propaganda machine. So he was making the point that the politics in the US have drifted so much more to the left that the right is actually the center. My jaw dropped off the floor. How do these thing even get propagated? It's borderline ridiculous and I don't know how this firehouse of bullshit can ever be countered.

[qu4z-2]

You can disagree, but "Presumably you meant the opposite of what you said" is condescending nonsense.

[cortesoft]

> ironically fascist organization

There is no antifa "organization". It is not centralized, there is no "leadership" or anyone in charge. It's more of a philosophy.

[lowkey_]

This is the one response here so far I agree with — I should've said movement to be more accurate.

[jasonwatkinspdx]

I live in Portland. I've met many people that label themselves antifa. They're just protestors that are willing to be a little more aggro. That's literally it.

So when people talk about antifa as if it was the left wing equivalent of Osama Bin Laden's terror network, it's a self report they're forming their views based on strawman style propaganda, not engaging with the reality of it.

[protocolture]

Theres no organisation but they are well organised in a distributed sense. Horizontally, theres lots of tradecraft and opsec details that get spread around to help people fight. Thing is, theres no central pillar you can break to stop that spread.

What gets me is how right wing protesters specifically eschew good opsec. "mask off rallys", visible tattoos etc. They love the police state and then look like idiots when that big police state they demanded rounds them up with absolute ease because they took selfies with their swastikas out during a protest.

[kadoban]

> Antifa is commonly known as an ironically fascist organization that uses violence and intimidation to silence speakers — it's like how the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea" is not really democratic.

That's not "commonly known", that's the spin you'll get from the right-wing in the US who just happen to have heavy fascist tendencies.

[sanktanglia]

Ahh yes let's list out the people who have been silenced by antifa....oh yeah that didn't happen

[lowkey_]

Google "Antifa silences speaker," and you'll find literally hundreds of cases of exactly that (I just did to verify).