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sershe | 25 days ago

If you are against a self-professed democratic people's republic (of Korea), does that make you anti-democratic or anti-people?

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jMyles|25 days ago

The difference is that North Korea is a place, with an organization that claims to be its government. You can point to it on a map.

Antifa is an adjective that people with no connection to one another self-apply. I'm antifa, and I imagine you are too, but it doesn't mean that we've ever met or coordinated with one another in any meaningful way.

The word "antifa" is basically meaningless altogether, since virtually every person since the end of WW2 claims to oppose fascism.

sershe|24 days ago

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mort96|24 days ago

This would be a great point if antifa was some official org with fascist views.

It's not. Antifa is just a shortened form of the word anti-fascist. Anyone can call themselves antifa. And typically, only people who view themselves as fighting fascism call themselves antifa.

In short, saying "antifa are the real fascists" is like saying "vegetarians are the real meat eaters". It doesn't make sense.

sershe|24 days ago

I didn't say anything of that sort. North Korea calls itself "democratic people republic" and people who call themselves antifa claim they fight "fascists". In both cases, the claim is either completely made up or occasionally somewhat technically correct as they fight anything from corporations to corner store glass windows to journalists who happen to disagree with them and happen to find some fascist

snypher|25 days ago

Well, it makes you antiDPRK. Being anti-antifascist just make you a fascist, or a fascist-adjacent supporter.

GaryBluto|25 days ago

> Being anti-antifascist just make you a fascist, or a fascist-adjacent supporter.

If a loose-knit ideology/movement called "Anti-Rapists" emerged that evolved into a cohort of various disconnected thugs who targeted homosexuals for violence, would being Anti-"Anti-Rapist" make you a supporter of rapists or rapist-adjacent supporter?