[ToValueFunfetti]

Yes, exactly my point. And once you are picking targets and taking violent actions, you can no longer excuse your aim and your violence by saying your heart is in the right place. Antifa has, for many decades, done wrong actions with good intentions. You can oppose them without being fascist.

[otikik]

> done wrong actions with good intentions

I would like some evidence there, please

[ToValueFunfetti]

Okay, well you can look at the wikipedia page referenced above: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States)

You can read Freddie deBoer's (notable communist writer) article: https://freddiedeboer.substack.com/p/antifa-is-a-fatherless-...

Or this article on PBS: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/black-clad-anarchists-sw...

Or google it or ask an LLM to google it for you and put 10 minutes into actually participating in this conversation?

[donkeybeer]

It works. It worked in WW2. Were the Allied soldiers fascist?

[ToValueFunfetti]

If they genocided German citizens, yes! We still argue today about whether Hiroshima and Nagasaki were justified; nobody argues they weren't antifascist.

[direwolf20]

Are you saying that if someone punches a Nazi (or let's say Hitler himself) in the face, they're a bad person?

[ToValueFunfetti]

Of course I'm not saying this! There's no way to read what I said and get this out unless you put it in! You're supposed to be charitable here and you are actively doing the opposite.

If you punch John Doe in the face becaune you think he's Hitler; if you torture Hitler's parents just to stick it to him, yes, you are in the wrong.