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endymion-light | 23 days ago

I love doing a personal side project code review with claude code, because it doesn't beat around the bush for criticism.

I recently compared a class that I wrote for a side project that had quite horrible temporal coupling for a data processor class.

Gemini - ends up rating it a 7/10, some small bits of feedback etc

Claude - Brutal dismemberment of how awful the naming convention, structure, coupling etc, provides examples how this will mess me up in the future. Gives a few citations for python documentation I should re-read.

ChatGPT - you're a beautiful developer who can never do anything wrong, you're the best developer that's ever existed and this class is the most perfect class i've ever seen

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majora2007|23 days ago

This is exactly what got me to actually pay. I had a side project with an architecture I thought was good. Fed it into Claude and ChatGPT. ChatGPT made small suggestions but overall thought it was good. Claude shit all over it and after validating it's suggestions, I realized Claude was what I needed.

I haven't looked back. I just use Claude at home and ChatGPT at work (no Claude). ChatGPT at work is much worse than Claude in my experience.

Willish42|23 days ago

I feel like this anecdote represents the differing incentives / philosophies of each group rather well.

I've noticed ChatGPT is rather high in its praise regardless of how valuable the input is, Gemini is less placating but still largely influenced by the perspective of the prompter, and Claude feels the most "honest" but humans are rather easy poor at judging this sort of thing.

Does anyone know if "sycophancy" has documented benchmarks the models are compared against? Maybe it's subjective and hard to measure, but given the issues with GPT 4o, this seems like a good thing to measure model to model to compare individual companies' changes as well as compare across companies.

endymion-light|20 days ago

The issue i think is that to model sycophancy you'd need another model that can address signs of sycophancy - it's turtles all the way down