[poplarsol]

Patrick is too polite to mention it, but frauds work much better if the fraudsters are also fully integrated into the political machine of the people nominally investigating the fraud.

[tptacek]

I don't think that's in evidence. Institutionalized and ideologically-driven apathy towards the fraud, sure, but that's not uncommon (see: the defense industry; the finance industry).

[learingsci]

A distinction without a difference imo. I think most people rightfully surmise the defense and financial industries are rife with, if not outright fraud, at least waste and abuse. We could use better language perhaps.

[treebeard901]

I'm kind of surprised how the political and legal network around Feeding Our Future, for example, has gone so unnoticed and underreported.

[joe_mamba]

>cryptoracist

He hates cryptographers?

[christkv]

Its hilarious how short human memory is. To me Minnesota just seems like a replay of Tammany Hall in NYC

[tptacek]

Then I think you need to read more about Tammany Hall, because it was not simply a widespread pattern of fraud in social services.