If you are a “DevOps engineer” - how is what you are doing any different from operations folk 25 years ago if you aren’t working with developers and embedded into their teams?
Help me understand this 'embedded in developer teams' in a larger company. Do you have no central infrastructure with centralized tooling, alerting, standards and knowledge?
Team A has a devops engineer, Teams B through F have one, how do they have any capacity to pursue long term strategical projects, save money and operational effort with centralized hosting and tooling, and basically have some autonomy, when they are enslaved to a Scrum Master and some hokey pokey Fibonacci numbers and T Shirt Size nonsense having to argue priorities in every Sprint against people who don't care about operations?
That's what embedded devops is to me - an operational role enslaved to dev leads, the poor guy who has to troubleshoot a failed release while the devs are at the bar.
Unless my straw man is wildly off, no thanks to that embedded stuff.
raw_anon_1111|22 days ago
antonvs|22 days ago
The problem you’re suffering from is assuming that the limited range of situations you’re familiar with is the same as what everyone else is doing.
mancerayder|22 days ago
Team A has a devops engineer, Teams B through F have one, how do they have any capacity to pursue long term strategical projects, save money and operational effort with centralized hosting and tooling, and basically have some autonomy, when they are enslaved to a Scrum Master and some hokey pokey Fibonacci numbers and T Shirt Size nonsense having to argue priorities in every Sprint against people who don't care about operations?
That's what embedded devops is to me - an operational role enslaved to dev leads, the poor guy who has to troubleshoot a failed release while the devs are at the bar.
Unless my straw man is wildly off, no thanks to that embedded stuff.