[christoph]

Same. Feels like it goes against the entire “hacker” ethos that brought me here in the first place. That sentence made me actually feel physically sick on initial read as well. Everyday now feels like a day where I have exponentially less & less interest in tech. If all of this AI that’s burning the planet is so incredible, where are the real world tangible improvements? I look around right now and everything in tech, software, internet, etc. has never looked so similar to a dumpster fire of trash.

[lubujackson]

Yes, exactly this. My biggest issue is how uncurious the approach seems. Setting a "no-look" policy seems cutting edge for two seconds, but prevents any actual learning about how and why things fail when you have all the details. They are just hamstringing their learning.

We still need to specify precisely what we want to have built. All we know from this post is what they aren't doing and that they are pissing money on LLMs. I want to know how they maintain control and specificity, share control and state between employees, handle conflicts and errors, manage design and architectural choices, etc.

All of this seems fun when hacking out a demo but how in the world does this make sense when there are any outside influences or requirements or context that needs to be considered or workflows that need to be integrated or scaling that needs to occur in a certain way or any of the number of actual concerns that software has when it isn't built in a bubble?

[MattRix]

Isn’t that the whole point of this approach? Everything is specified just in terms of how the end user will actually use the software, at a high level. Then the LLMs basically iterate relentlessly until the software matches what the end user wants to do.

[zingar]

The biggest rewards for human developers came from building addictive eyeball-getters for adverts so I don’t see how we can expect a very high bar for the results of their replacement AI factories. Real-world and tangible just seem completely out of the picture.

[Garlef]

Maybe think about it like this: A dev is ~1k per day. If the tool gives you 3x then 2x in cost is fine.

(The current cost of 1k is "real" and ultimately, even if you tinker on your own, you're paying this in opportunity cost)

((caveats, etc))