[orangecat]

That’s like saying that the human brain is based on simple physical field equations, and therefore its behavior is easy to understand.

Right, which is the point: LLMs are much more like human coworkers than compilers in terms of how you interact with them. Nobody would say that there's no point to working with other people because you can't predict their behavior exactly.

[layer8]

This thread is about what software developers like. It’s common knowledge that many programmers like working with computers because that’s different in specific ways from working with people. So saying that LLMs are just like people doesn’t help here.

[kristofferR]

Yeah, and you are sugarcoating it - the stereotype is that some programmers actively dislike socializing is a stereotype for a reason.

[abustamam]

Yeah there's a reason there is a stereotype/trope about programmers not liking people. I like a lot of people. But I would hate to work with many of them even if I like hanging out with them.

That said, I do like having an LLM that I can treat like the crappy bosses on TV treat their employees. When it gets something totally wrong I can yell at it and it'll magically figure out the right solution, but still keep a chipper personality. That doesn't work with humans.

[skydhash]

> LLMs are much more like human coworkers than compilers in terms of how you interact with them.

Human coworkers are much more predictable. A workplace where people act similarly to LLM would be a complete zoo. Imagine asking for an endpoint modification and the result is a broken backend. Or brainstorming with a PM and the reply are "you're absolutely right, whatever I was saying was completely wrong, but let me repeat it in a different manner".

[deaux]

> Or brainstorming with a PM and the reply are "you're absolutely right, whatever I was saying was completely wrong, but let me repeat it in a different manner".

As if this isn't incredibly common..?

[simulator5g]

Nobody would say:

"...there's no point to working with other people because you can't predict their behavior exactly."

Because you CAN predict coworker behavior to a useful point. Ex, they'll probably reply to that email on Monday. They'll probably show you a video that you find less amusing than they do.

With LLMs you can't be quite sure whether they will make something up, forget a key detail, hide a mistake that will obviously be found out when everything breaks, etc. Stupid things that most employable people wouldn't do, like building a car and forgetting the wheels.

[latexr]

> LLMs are much more like human coworkers

Specifically they are like Julius, the colleague managers like but is a drag on everyone else.

https://ploum.net/2024-12-23-julius-en.html