[davewritescode]

Have you never run a team of software engineers as a lead? Agentic coding comes naturally to a lot of people because that's PRECISELY what you do when you're leading a team, herding multiple brains to point them in the same direction so when you combine all their work it becomes something that is greater than the sum of it's parts.

Lots of the complains about agents sound identical to things I've heard and even said myself about junior engineers.

That said, there's always going to need to be people who can reach below the abstraction and agentic coding loops deprive you of the ability to get those reps in.

[queenkjuul]

People say this about juniors but I've never seen a junior make some of the bone headed mistakes AI loves to make. Either I'm very lucky or other people have really stupid juniors on their teams lol.

Regardless, personally, there's no comparison between an LLM and a junior; always rather work with a junior.

[finaard]

I've wrote this a few times, but LLM interactions often remind me of my days at Nokia - a lot of the interactions are exactly like what I remember with some of their cheap subcons there.

I even have exactly the same discussion after it messed up, like "My code is working, ignore that failing test, that was always broking, and I definitey didn't break it just now".

[aleph_minus_one]

> Have you never run a team of software engineers as a lead?

I expect juniors to improve fast to get really good. AI is incapable of applying the teaching that I expcect juniors to internalize to any future code that it writes.