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superjan | 21 days ago

That 15% loss reduces your range from 1000km to 850km? That hardly affects how useful the vehicle is. For EV that’s different story.

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epistasis|21 days ago

How many vehicles have a 650 mile range? Almost none. Plus you can't fill up at home with gasoline, like you can with an EV.

tbrownaw|21 days ago

> How many vehicles have a 650 mile range? Almost none.

'22 Ford Escape hybrid

The remaining miles thing shows less than that on a full tank, but I've been pretty consistently getting upper-600s between fill-ups.

I suppose it would probably be less if I went on the interstate more.

PunchyHamster|21 days ago

you can have drum of fuel enough for entire winter in your garage, the fuck you mean by "can't fill up at home"?

gambiting|21 days ago

You mean EVs? Yeah, none that I'm aware of. But petrol/diesel cars? Loads of them. Even my 400bhp Volvo XC60 will easily do 650 miles on one tank of fuel. A diesel one will do 700-800. And a diesel Passat will go over 1000 miles on a tank without trying. Hell, even my basic 1.6dCI Qashqai could do 700 miles on its 55 litre tank

baq|21 days ago

Every modern passenger car will show you 650 miles when driving at ~60mph. In the EU, anyway, and with a diesel engine.