[Isamu]

>brute force search of the solution space

“Brute force” is mostly what makes it all work, and what is most disappointing to me currently. Including the brute force necessary to train an LLM, the vast quantity of text necessary to approach almost human quality, the massive scale of data centers necessary to deploy these models, etc.

I am hoping this is a transitional period, where LLMs could be used to create better models that are more finesse and less brute force.

[martin-t]

To be honest, these models being bad is what gives me some hope we can figure out how to approach a potential future AI as a society before it arrives.

Because right now everything in the west is structured around rich people owning things they have not built while people who did the actual work with their hands and their minds are left in the dust.

For a brief period of time (a couple decades), tech was a path for anyone from any background to get at least enough to not struggle. Not become truly rich as for that you need to own real estate or companies but having all your reasonable material needs taken care of and being able to save up for retirement (or in countries without free education, to pay for kids' college).

And that might be coming to an end, with people who benefited from this opportunity cheering it on.

[logicprog]

I make $1500/mo, working part time for a friend being vastly underpaid for technical work and part time as a meat packer in the back of a supermarket, because I had to drop out of university a year before finishing due to a disability and loss of financial resources, and thanks to being trans, disabled, and a dropout, as well as the job market that's fucked up due to AI and all the other reasons for layoffs, so I can't get a tech job, despite having been programming since I was seven and being very good at it.

I don't think it's really fair to talk about "people who benefited from this opportunity cheering it on" in the comments on one of my posts. I'm an agentic AI coding enthusiast because I find it fascinating, it allows me to focus more on what I like most about programming (software architecture, systems thinking, etc), and the decreased cognitive load and increased productivity allows me to continue to do interesting projects in the time and energy I have left after my jobs and disability take.