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rat9988 | 20 days ago

This feels like piracy to me and an unintended usecase of archives.

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falcor84|20 days ago

What do you mean? I was always under the impression that archives are for accessing a copy when the original is hard to access - this seems like the perfect use case.

PeterHolzwarth|20 days ago

Bypassing a paywall does sound a bit like piracy, if you think about it. This is what the commenter is referring to (tho in this case, I don't see a paywall on the article this end.)

chwtutha|20 days ago

I’ll admit I’ve felt a bit weird about posting archive links myself, but not weird enough to subscribe to The New Yorker instead

46493168|20 days ago

Advertisements and web tracking feel like stalking. I’ll pay for content when the content providers respect my attention and privacy and not until then.

piperswe|20 days ago

IMO it’s definitely piracy, but piracy is morally neutral

llm_nerd|20 days ago

This isn't archive.org. Archive.is (and its many TLD equivalents) is explicitly for bypassing paywalls like this, and this is absolutely the intended use.

9 times out of ten it's because sites use cloaking and serve up all of the contents to search bots, but then paywall out end users, so it's kind of a hoisted by their own petard kind of situation.

And, I mean, people can choose to not follow those links. To the rest of us they're often very welcome, and we aren't subscribing to every random site for the once in a millennia worthwhile article.

nullc|20 days ago

> is explicitly for bypassing paywalls like this

The site existed for most of a decade before it had any particular paywall bypassing. It's an ondemand archival site that saves the DOM in such a way that redisplay is faithful, unlike archive.org.

It's a key resource in court cases for purely archival purposes and the fact that it bypasses paywalls is essential for its archival purpose to function.

senko|20 days ago

HN is only against piracy when AI labs do it.

t-3|20 days ago

When giant IP corporations violate IP, that's very different from Joe Rando watching a movie for free. It's way worse, on multiple levels, for rule-makers to break rules than for ordinary people to.